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SERIES TWO: PLAY ZONE

Black Joy

Maxine Beneba Clarke, Bebe Backhouse and Nakkiah Lui in Conversation with Cheryl Leavy

In the first episode of our ‘Play Zone’ podcast series, Maxine Beneba Clarke, Bebe Backhouse and Nakkiah Lui discuss Black Joy with poet Cheryl Leavy.
With our social media feeds constantly inundating us with images of trauma, Black Joy is an expression of resistance and healing. Three storytellers speak on what Black Joy means to them.

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About the speakers



Bebe Backhouse

Bebe Backhouse is an award-winning writer and a descendant of the Bardi Jawi people of Broome. His debut poetry collection, more than these bones, was released in March 2023.

Nakkiah Lui

Gamilaroi/Torres Strait Islander woman Nakkiah Lui is the co-writer and star of Black Comedy, and co-host of the podcast Pretty for an Aboriginal. She manages Joan, an Allen & Unwin imprint.

Maxine Beneba Clarke

Maxine Beneba Clarke is the award-winning author of more than 10 books, including her recent poetry collection, It’s the Sound of the Thing: 100 new poems for young people.

Cheryl Leavy

Kooma and Nguri woman Cheryl Leavy is an Executive Director within Queensland Government working on First Nations Policy and a member of the Brisbane Writers Festival board.



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